Defective identity

January 5, 2016 § 35 Comments

[20] For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

[21] Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God, or given thanks; but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened. [22] For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. [23] And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man, and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts, and of creeping things. [24] Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves. [25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

[26] For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. [27] And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. [28] And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient; [29] Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, [30] Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

[31] Foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy. [32] Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.

Romans 1:20-32

Decades ago I attended a school with a large deaf population.  One of the interesting things about the deaf community is that there actually is such a thing as the deaf community.

By ‘deaf community’ I do not mean a community of people united by common challenges and the common purpose to overcome those challenges. That kind of community would involve communal acknowledgment that there is an objective disorder to be overcome, or simply endured (and those enduring it supported) when it cannot be overcome. That kind of community would acknowledge human dignity to be an objective matter of reality independent of what anyone (or everyone) thinks.

What I mean, rather, is a community of people who (qua community[*]) celebrate the objective defect as if it were a positive good and insist upon that defect as a principle of their identity.  I mean a community of people many of whom are insulted by the very idea that the defect actually is objectively a privation, a defect: people who feel simultaneously entitled to special compassion because of their predicament and insulted by the idea that there is anything wrong in the first place.

Modern cafeteria realists, because they are cafeteria realists, cannot tell (or selectively project incapacity to tell) the difference between being and privation; between creation and destruction; between authority and tyranny; between good and evil.  They are under the delusion that because, like gravity, it cannot be directly seen, value is a matter of mere opinion or of aggregate opinion. They are under the delusion that productivity is just a matter of perspective, that perversity is love, that their rule is justified by the principle that nobody has a right to rule, that their favored policies and procedures are justified by the goods at which they are directed but that what is good in the first place is a matter of obscure subjective opinion hidden behind an impenetrable is-ought gap which relegates the good to the land of inscrutable subjective cartesian ghosts or optimized material machinery.

When you find yourself wondering why modernity is pervaded by degenerates and defectives, understand that this is by choice.  Modern man has decided that, as the measure of all things, he only believes in the realities in which he wants to believe. As a result he has chosen defectiveness as the principle of his own being.

[*] As always, individual persons may be more or less committed to the community, may or may not fully grasp the object of their loyalty, etc.  It is a basic mistake to equate persons with the objects of their loyalty. An individual American is not America, and America cannot be reduced to nothing but the aggregation of actual Americans.  Same for Islam, feminism, liberalism, etc.  Just as personal defects are not the essence of a person, objects of personal loyalty are not themselves the person.

§ 35 Responses to Defective identity

  • Alte says:

    Germans are living in Unreality Land. Everyone is afraid to leave their house now, the populace is arming themselves, and women are being grabbed and dragged away right out of crowded public places all over the country, but every poll shows Merkel’s popularity rising and everyone agrees that there’s no alternative to her libertarian-wet-dream open borders policy. It’s a complete mad house.

    Everyone identifies so much with this crazed anti-nationalism that they’re disbelieving their own lying eyes.

  • Chad says:

    Good insight. I remember a tv episode of some show where parents were in some such deaf community as you describe, and wanted to make their children deaf.

    The whole thing was creepy; what kind of parent mutilates their child? But we celebrate such in so many areas of life these days; where parents purposely break their children to be as deformed as them in mind, body, and soul.

    Such a sad betrayal by those whom should protect them more than any other

  • GJ says:

    Zippy, I take it you haven’t heard of “transability”.

  • Felix M says:

    Interesting comparison. To pursue the comparison for a moment, there was a story a while ago about a deaf couple who had a baby and, horrifyingly, wanted the child’s hearing destroyed.

  • Zippy says:


    Zippy, I take it you haven’t heard of “transability”.

    Not under that neologism, at least that I recall. But self mutilation has been a thing for a long time. Tattoos and piercings (other than common marks of brotherhood as in e.g. the military) for example intrinsically express qua action that the body is a canvas upon which to be painted or clay to be sculpted into whatever one wills. Deliberately lopping off parts, rearranging legos, and other self mutilations express the same thing, just more vehemently.

  • Axismundi says:

    Alte, always good to hear about reality in Germany. Even the regular media is reporting on the sex assaults now. Amazing. I thought they would bury it like in Sweden.

    Germans seem quite prone to mass hypnosis. I wonder what’s next.

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  • Dystopia Max says:

    Using words like ‘defective’? That leads to using words like ‘degenerate’, which sound very Nazi, and thus ungood. Obviously the reason we don’t allow such words to be used is because the Nazis are the worst, and all of our propaganda, values, and public morality is against any Nazifying measures that seek to protect some ideal (and thus supremacist) community.

  • Alte says:

    Nobody here cares about being called a Nazi anymore.

    They did try to bury it, but Facebook filled up fast with furious young men and politics had to move fast to prevent a run on gun shops.

  • Zippy says:

    One head of the Dragon awakens the other head.

  • Peter Blood says:

    I didn’t know ‘defective’ and ‘degenerate’ were doubleplusungood.

  • Axismundi says:

    I’m aware media = propaganda, yet I don’t understand how Germans believe there is no alternative.

  • Peter Blood says:

    OT: Zippy, did you see that Twitter is increasing it’s character limit from 140 to 10,000? Now that’s inflation!

  • biplob1958 says:

    There is no definite or authentic prof is available of many theory of creation.

  • GJ says:

    I am reminded of reports that homosexual and transsexual activists are increasingly conflicting. It is a manifestation of the clash of the two opposite lies: the objective against the subjective, ‘I am who some mixture of nature and environment made me’ vs ‘I am who I declare I am’.

    In an analogous fashion liberalism produces other such clashing viewpoints, eg ‘less government’ libertarianism vs ‘more government’ socialism in the USA, and Diversity vs national socialism in Germany.

  • From the Guardian arrticle: “The couple, who are both mental health specialists and deaf therapists, have been together for nearly 10 years.”

  • Zippy says:


    The Guardian article is a 14 year old story now, as you probably know. The money quote from the article, for the purposes of my own post here, is this:

    They also said they were part of a generation that viewed deafness not as a disability but as a cultural identity.

    That tracks my own experience, as a proximate outside observer, of the deaf community circa the 1980’s. There are (or were) really two deaf communities, and while I am not proximate to them these days these ‘internal’ communities were often in conflict with each other. One was supportive of dealing with the trial of deafness and making the most of things qua objective handicap, which includes not making it into a bigger deal than it has to be but also includes openness to cures and remedies (hearing aids, cochlear implants, etc); the other celebrating deafness as a positive good, as a principle of identity and as central to the dignity of deaf persons, despising the ‘traitors’ who got implants or objectively improved their condition with technology, etc.

    Anti-realism about ‘invisible things’ — authority, normative essence, telos etc — leads man to embrace his defects as the principle of his identity. And defects lead man to embrace anti-realism, because even though we all have defects nobody likes to feel defective. That’s how, in the land of lies when every day is opposite day, sodomy and unequivocal support for sodomy become ‘dignity’.

    It used to puzzle me that human beings, Imago Dei, could understand their own identity and ‘dignity’ qua human beings as essentially entangled with (to be graphic) anal sex, of all things. “Dignity” became an enormously important slogan-word for homosexuals because they equate acting on perverse desires with dignity. From even a slight distance away from the hothouse it just seems ludicrous. It would be like insisting that playing in feces and rubbing it all over ourselves is what makes us dignified human beings made in the image of God. Which of course is unspeakably insulting to God, but it means that we can pretend not to be defective by swapping the meanings of dignity (the perfection we analogize or in which we imperfectly participate as Imago Dei) and defect.

  • Alte says:

    Because the most obvious alternative is to guard the border with lethal force and throw out most of the new arrivals, and they’re not yet willing to do that.

  • Elspeth says:

    It has been eye opening to me (as we are getting more and more used to dealing with an “out” family member) how everything is about that particular identity. And I mean everything. It is nigh impossible to have any kind of conversation without the looming apprehension that at some point we’re going to go “there”.

    Now, it’s not like I’m not used to this kind of thing being as I am, black and having been raised around it to some degree. But even where I came from, at some point one’s sex, or family title, faith identification, or work would rise in and become integrated into the picture where you ultimately realize that there are things you have in common with people who don’t look like you.

    But no so within the gay community. It was shocking to me because I’ve never in all my life met any straight person who wore their heterosexuality on their sleeve as if were the be all, end all of their existence. Strikes me as kind of strange and bizarre.


    Many Germans may not care about being identified as Nazis anymore.PEGIDA is an excellent example of that, but enough Germans in power are “like that” so that reality and common sense cannot get enough of a foothold to stem the tide of the invasion there. Y’all have my sympathies.

  • CJ says:

    Our response to our defectiveness should be “Maranatha!” We should long for the day when sin and its consequences are done away with. Instead we tell ourselves lies to excuse how comfortable we’ve become wallowing in our own excrement.

  • Zippy, the quote I referred to (“The couple, who are both mental health specialists and deaf therapists, have been together for nearly 10 years.”) was evocative for me because, for a living, these deaf lesbians tell people how to have good mental health. Every day is opposite day, after all. I would say that your money quote and mine together are complementary.

    Is Deaf Lesbians also the band with the one-handed drummer? Hmmmm….

    I agree with the rest of your comment, and have nothing to add. Rather than clutter up your comboxes, I’ll say here that I like the term “cafeteria realist”.

  • Zippy says:


    I would say that your money quote and mine together are complementary.

    Fair enough: it is good to raise the point that the very people embracing defects as the principle of personal identity themselves are also professionally credentialed to foster and are professionally responsible for fostering ‘good mental health’ in others.

  • Mark Citadel says:

    “When you find yourself wondering why modernity is pervaded by degenerates and defectives, understand that this is by choice. Modern man has decided that, as the measure of all things, he only believes in the realities in which he wants to believe. As a result he has chosen defectiveness as the principle of his own being”

    This ^^^^ but we know a ‘falling away’ was predicted. The Kali Yuga is in full effect.

  • Aethelfrith says:

    ^I always wonder why certain Western conservatives keep talking about Kali Yuga. After a modicum of research on Yuga cycles on Wikipedia, it says that Kali Yuga started at 3000 BC, so if we’re in KY, then so were our grandparents, their grandparents, their grandparents and so on.

    (You’d also have to accept that in the good old days, men were 21 cubits tall and had a lifespan of 100,000 years).

    Maybe since cynicism is the idealism of those reactionaries, it’s just “wishful” thinking. Maybe they enjoy all varieties of doom porn. Then again, it could be another symptom of cafeteria realism (or perhaps its mirror, cafeteria fantasism).

  • Zippy says:

    I don’t know if Mark Citadel intended his comment to be taken quite so literally; but it didn’t strike me that he did when I read it, FWIW.

  • Aethelfrith says:

    I didn’t either, but for my part I tend choose my metaphors carefully. My final paragraph still stands.

  • Silly Interloper says:

    Probably shouldn’t define our metaphors by their defects.

  • Axismundi says:


    Though the Germans are ready to have their teenage daughters and sisters raped more by the day.

    The Telegraph has it all on front page news today. I’m surprised it even made it to the media. 4 days late.

  • Just saw this quote, and it reminded me of this post.

    “How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping. Were it not for that, we should feel sorry rather than angry.”

    — Pascal, Pensees 98

  • biplob1958 says:

    You are right. But change is essential.

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